Krsna Ksetra Prabhu

[Divyakisori]

Haribol! Najnowsze wiesci z Hong Kongu:

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=4550

milo popatrzec i poczytac

[Divyakisori]

A tu wklejam przedostatni list Divya-simhy Prabhu do rodzenstwa duchowego (dotyczy zbiorki Lakszmi na wydanie pracy doktorskiej GM w jezyku polskim):

Gaura prem!!! ....znowu przypadla mi ta niewdzieczna rola drodzy wielbiciele...rola zebraka...zwracam sie do was pokornie...padajac wam do waszych lotosowych stop o jakiekolwiek dadki na projekt ksiazki GM...kazde nawet najmniejsze 5 zl bedzie wielkim wsparciem...tylko dwie osoby odpowiedzialy na moj ostatni apel...zadzwonil do mnie wajkuntanatha prabhu i diwja kisori Matadzi... szacuje ze zeby ladnie wydac te ksiazke potrzebne jest ok 6000 zl..... z tej sumy mamy juz cos niecos uzbierane... wybaczcie mi ze was nekam.... jesli nie mozecie wplacic nic...modlcie sie by ten projekt zakonczyl sie sukcesem...jak sie ostatnio widzialem z GM wyraznie dal mi do zrozumienia jak bardzo by chcial by ta ksiazka sie ukazala w j.pl ...wydaje mi sie (nie znam angielskiego dobrze) ze powiedzial nawet - jak mam nauczac na uniwersytetach w polsce bez mojej ksiazki?... sami rozumiecie jak w naszej tradycji ksiazki sa istota nauczania...przytocze tu tylko slowa srila bhaktisiddhanty maharaja do srila prabhupada wypowiedziane nad radha kunda- jesli masz pieniadze drukuj ksiazki...prabhupad zwykl mowic potem - gdzie sa ksiazki...gdzie sa ksiazki... ... badzcie pewni ze kazda wasza zlotowka, rubl, dolar, rupia, euro, funt bedzie zaangazowana w sposob wlasciwy w ten projekt
ponizej jest rachunek zlotowkowy na ktory mozecie wpacac lakszmi
DARIUSZ RUSIN MARSZAŁKOWSKA 6/7 00-590 WARSZAWA
CITIBANK 72 1030 0019 0109 8518 0189 1493
na rachunku obecnie znajduje sie 2476 zl.
pozdrawiam was bardzo serdecznie
wasz pokorny sluga
divya simha dasa

[Divyakisori]

A tu ostatni list (z dzisiaj) dotyczacy tego samego tematu:

12 października 2007 9:57

Hare Kryszna Drodzy wielbiciele. Przyjmijcie moje pelne szacunku pokłony. Wszelka chwała Guru Maharadzowi i Srila Prabhupadzie!!! Bardzo dziekuje ze kilku z Was odezwalo sie na apel dotyczacy projektu ksiazki GM. Rameswar Prabhu twoja wplata 50 zl doszla. Wielkie dzieki. Odezwal sie do mnie Pandawa Prabhu...Kawicandra Prabhu tez pisal... Pokornie prosze modlcie sie za powodzenie tego projektu... jeszcze raz wielkie dzieki w imieniu GM wplacajcie ile mozecie 5 zl. 10, 100, 10000 kazda kwota bedzie przekazana ostatecznie GM.
Wasz pokorny sługa Diwja simha dasa

[Divyakisori]

A tu nasza odpowiedz:

Tak sobie dzis pomyslelismy z mezem, ze gdyby w tym miesiacu kazdy z nas dal 50 zl, i w przyszlym miesiacu wplacilibysmy kolejne 50 zl, to uzbieralaby sie akurat potrzebna suma! 50 zl to nie jest jakas zawrotna suma (nawet dla takich biedakow, jak my . Wiec sie zainspirowalismy i wplacilismy dzis te kwote. Co Wy na to? Oczywiscie, jesli ktos chcialby dac wiecej, to pewnie nikt sie nie pogniewa , a jesli ktos nie moze dac tyle, to cokolwiek bedzie mile widziane. Pozdrawiamy serdecznie! Wasi sludzy z Lodzi

[Divya]

Drodzy bhaktowie dostałem dzis informacje od Rasasthali Mataji.

Hari Hari!

W ramach inspiracji, o ktorej ostatnio rozmawialismy: Ten link wyslal mi
dzis Guru Maharaja
http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/cpr/pressrelease/071011e.htm

Jesli chodzi o pieniadze, to chetnie wysle czek jesli mozecie go zrealizowac
w Polsce, bo nie wiem jak zrobic przekaz miedzynarodowy a mam zle
doswiadczenie z tutejszymi bankami i unikam ich jak ognia. Czy to odpowiada?
Moge wyslac z 70-100 funtow, dalibysmy nawet cala sume gdyby nie ostatni
finansowy kryzys . Jak Ci Prabhu odpowiada, to na jaki adres mam wyslac?

pozdrawiam serdecznie,
Rasasthali

[Divyakisori]

A tu doslownie kilka zdjec z programu z GM w Lodzi (kwiecien tego roku):

http://picasaweb.google.com/Dorota.Slaw ... odzi042007

Znalazlam wczoraj, wiec sie dziele
Guru Maharaj dal wtedy bardzo ciekawy, osobisty wyklad, ktorego nikt nie nagral
A wszystko przez to, ze nie bylo takiego formalnego rozpoczecia, tylko jakos tak sie zaczelo. Moja siostra pozniej spisala go i gdzies powinien byc.
Jak jeszcze cos znajde, to zawiesze.

[Divyakisori]

Jak co roku Mahi-bharta Prabhu zbiera ofiarowania od uczniow Guru Maharaja z calego swiata, aby umiescic je na plycie multimedialnej. Oto list od niego. Zachecamy Was do napisania i przeslania ich pod adres podany w liscie. Oczywiscie ofiarowania powinny byc przetlumaczone na jezyk angielski. Jesli ktos nie ma ochoty lub nie zdazy z napisaniem tego ofiarowania do podanego w liscie terminu, zawsze moze je wylsac bezposrednio na adres GM. (Mozna to zrobic obojetnie, czy ofiarownie bedzie umieszczone na plycie, czy nie )
Pozdrawiamy serdecznie!

Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters,
please, accept our most humble obeisances.
All glories to Guru Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada!

As every year we would like to make a Vyasa-puja book in electronic
form
with your offerings for the satisfaction of our dear Guru Maharaja.

We would like to ask you to kindly send your Vyasa-puja offerings to
next
address till 15th of December 2007:

kkddisciples@gmail.com



P.S.: This year Gita Jayanti comes on 20th of December. Of course, it
would
be nice if you can also send your offerings directly to Guru Maharaja
via
mail or in some other form on this most auspicious day.

Guru Maharaja, ki jaya!

Your servants,
kkddisciples team.

[Rasasthali]

Wiadomosci z netu o Guru Maharaju: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?news ... 2&pageid=2

[Rasasthali]

Apel Guru Maharaja do przygotowania akademickiej prezentacji w ramach nastepnej konferencjci Bhaktivedanta Academy of Arts and Sciences (zmienilismy nazwe z Iskcon AAS na Bhaktivedanta AAS):

http://www.kkddisciples.info/index.php? ... 3&Itemid=1


Haribol, please accept my humble obeisances.

Jaya Gurudeva! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

While being at Simhachalam for Nrisimha Caturdasi Guru Maharaj gave us a great opportunity to serve Him. At disciple meeting he gave us a little description of how we can serve Him: Analyse the Bhagavatam for particular topic -- Nature (in a sense of prakriti). He suggested that we divide into groups, based upon 12 Cantos, and search the verses where nature is mentioned. These references would fall into four categories being description, interpretation, explanation and evaluation. For details read following transcribed conversation at disciple meeting (click Read more), or even better hear the recording from disciple meeting at Simhachalam. For coordination about groups and SB content assignments, please contact Divya Simha Pr. <divya AT wl DOT pl>.

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Guru Maharaj said: " ... and the other thing is I have a little service for you. I think, maybe, all of you can help with a research project that I have. We have to see if we can organize this. We need to research the entire Srimad Bhagavatam, for a particular theme. We heard also, earlier this morning, from Cakravarti Prabhu about methods of studying the Bhagavatam. I'm preparing a presentation which I want to give at the conference. This is a devotee academic conference which will be coming up in December, so that's the end of this year, so we have a lot of time. As soon as I get back from Hong Kong in December I have to go to Radhadesh. It's the Bhaktivedanta Academy of Arts and Sciences, which was started up three years ago, four years ago, three years ago,... And they have a meeting, once a year, of devotees who are engaged in academics. And last year it was in America. I couldn't go, I was in Hong Kong. This year they're planning to have it in Radhadesh. I'd like to invite you all, but it's a little bit, hmm, how to say, it's a little exclusive. They just want to have the academics, because they want to feel free to discuss things that academics are face to it. And the theme of the conference..."

"They made very very broad theme. Theme is *Nature and Krishna Consciousness*. And then different devotees are preparing papers on some aspect of that topic. So what I've proposed to them, and they seem to accept my proposal, is to write, well write, prepare a talk on 'Nature in the Bhagavatam within the narratives of the Bhagavatam'. You all understand the word 'narrative'? Narrative means story. So, there's so many, we can say stories, or we can say histories, but in any case where there's a sequence of actions. Now, I specify that because there's also analytical, philosophical discussion of 'prakriti', especially a nature in that respect. But what I'm interested in is whenever there's a mention of the outdoors of the country, of trees, of mountains, of rivers, of the sky, of clouds, flowers, fruits, anything that's mentioned in the context of narrative. And then I wanna collect all of these references and try to analyze, try to bring some points about how nature is represented in the Bhagavatam. So what we need to do is divide up the Bhagavatam into twelve -- it's already divided -- we need to divide ourselves into, I guess, twelve, who can work in, maybe, in groups if you want, because we have more than twelve here. Then you could help me out doing this research, so I don't have to do it all by myself. Is that a good idea? It's a way to study the Bhagavatam. Studying the Bhagavatam is a good thing. [laughter] And we can have a very specific focused purpose... and this will be something which will be a benefit for the whole group of scholars... and I'll, you know, make also... we'll make it accessible. Actually they record those meetings and eventually it becomes -- I think -- available also for other devotees. So, this would be a big help. Questions?"

"I say academic -- we sometimes say academic, that means basically waste of time [laughter], it is an academic question -- but in this case it's a group of devotees who want to try to make connections between our tradition and this academic world which so many people are engaged with in the greater world, and therefore to make some presence of Krishna Consciousness on a level which otherwise it would not reach. And, so this is in a way an extension of Srila Prabhupada's Bhaktivedanta Institute project. The Bhaktivedanta Institute was Prabhupada's nearest and dearest project in the last days of his life. He was really talking and thinking a lot about Bhaktivedanta Institute. And he was talking with his Bhaktivedanta Institute's devotees a lot. Over the years Bhaktivedanta Institute is going on, but it has developed, I think we can say a kind of limited scope. It is very much focused on the hard sciences as we say in English -- physics and biology and... you know, like that -- which is what Prabhupada wanted. He wanted that, so that's alright. But in the last 15 years or so, there's been a quite interesting development within ISKCON that now there are so many devotees who are engaged in some academic study and they are not all physics and biology [laughter]. There are so many other things. Now it's kind of new group -- 'umbrella' group, you can say -- which is kind of grass roots. There's a few devotees here and there, and were saying: 'Well, let's get together, let's do this'. And then the hope is eventually that GBC will recognize and appreciate: 'Oh, we have this very nice Bhaktivedanta Academy of Arts and Sciences, so let us take advantage and let us support.' But for now it's a little bit grass roots. But essentially it's an expansion of Prabhupada's idea of Bhaktivedanta Institute. And since Prabhupada puts so much emphasis on Bhaktivedanta Institute, we feel that this sort of new conception, or expanded conception may also become very important and, we hope, pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. So, you can help... Yes? Ok. Yes, Tirtha sevana..."

Tirtha sevana asked: "In the description of an autumn.. [10th Canto] There are so many, like some things from nature... Does this also count?"

Guru Maharaj answered: "That counts. In one sense it's, strictly speaking, not narrative, because it's sort of one analogy after another, but it's within bigger story of Krishna's pastimes in Vrindavana. So in that sense, and it's saying: '... and then the autumn season came...' and then it describes the rains and so on. Yes, of course, that's one of the first things we think of. There's not much need to do much with that, because, ok, we know that chapter is there -- Autumn in Vrindavana. Ok, so that can just be listed. There may be other things within chapters. Whether is just some mention of some natural phenomenon, it can be a phenomenon. In the first canto there's a description of omens, bad omens for the appearance of the age of Kali, for example. So that's nature. I think it's something you need to, you know, when you looking for, you'll discover: 'Ohh, here's also, I wouldn't have noticed, but here is also something.' You know, this could also be seen as some reference, it can be sometimes not so direct as some reference to nature. Some cantos will have more, some cantos will have less references, but I think we'll always see something."

"And then it's for me to try to organize it and come out with some themes out of that. I already have an idea how I'd organize it. I can mention it if that would help you to be looking, but it might be a little bit abstract for you, but I'll mention. There's kind of four categories I'm thinking. One is *description* -- ah, taking notes? very good -- so there may be simply a description of a garden, or some feature of nature. Just describing, it's like this, it's like that, there are ducks and there are swans, flowers, whatever. That's description. Second thing there might be some kind of *interpretation*, interpreation of nature. The example I gave was omens, bad omens. So here the emphasis is that, you know, when jackals howl that means something. It means that the age of Kali is coming. So that's, the keyword here is meaning that nature means something, or some aspect of nature means something. The third category is *explanation*. Some aspect of nature might being used to explain something. It could be philosophical idea, but it could also be, well of course again, it'll be sometimes difficult to separate narrative from philosophy. For example, there's in Second Canto a description of the creation of the world, you can say: 'That's a narrative. First this happened, then this happened, then that happened...' We're not getting into the details about the creation as such and I won't get into the details of Fifth Canto, you know, the cosmos -- how it's all organized -- that's not really what I'm interested in. But I'm interested in why is it that that's being told. Why is it that that description is there? You can say: 'Well, it's because Maharaj Pariskit asked.' [laughter] But we can be thinking why, you know, may be some other ways of explaining. Or, there may be explanation being given by Sukadeva about something. And the fourth category... and I should say all of these can be overlapping: description, interpretation, explanation, they can be intertwisted, not always simple divisions. The fourth one is *evaluation*. The keyword here is value. What is the value of something. So, sometimes Sukadeva Goswami, or Suta Goswami may be trying to tell that something is very valuable, such as: it's very valuable to chant Hare Krishna, or to chant Nrsimha prayers. [laughter] It's important to do this, it's valuable, it has a big benefit for one, it has a great value. So, one can be thinking, maybe there's some mention of nature with respect to evaluation, showing or claiming something having value, or the opposite. Evaluation means also to say: 'That's useless, has no value!'. To evaluate is to give a value to something. And sometimes the value is zero. But you are evaluating by saying that it's zero. So, one might say sometimes that the Bhagavatam is saying that the value of material existence is zero. You know, it is like a dream, wake up from it and it has no more value. So that can also be..."

"Anyway, as I said that make a little bit abstract, don't worry about that, but you can, maybe, keep those in mind, it might help. And feel free to point out: 'Oh, this seems like, you know, a kind of evaluation, but then again it's a description...' And then together we're preparing this presentation.. it's a *TEAM* effort!"

[alex]

Byłbym wdzięczny jak by ktoś przetłumaczył o co kaman bo nie znam dobrze angielskiego może choć troszku